Small Investors' Welfare Association
TEXT OF LETTER WRITTEN TO SEBI
Mar 30, 2022
Small Investors' Welfare Association
TEXT OF LETTER WRITTEN TO SEBI
Mar 30, 2022
Ref. Consultation paper on review of price band and book building framework for public issues
2. Please
simplify the process of making an application in IPO: although the amount
of information to be filled has been greatly reduced to minimal, the main
problem stems from the price band. How to calculate the lot size and number of
shares to be subscribed. One will need an expert to do that. Under the present
regime of price band system, for making an application in an IPO, one must take
the help of brokers and experts. You may try it out in your office like a fun
game and see how many of the officer who volunteer to participate in the
exercise are able to complete an IPO application and how much time it takes to
fill it up,
3. Just
as a legal compulsory compliance, a miniscule price difference is made in
IPO: the issuers/merchant bankers have to give 2
price points, without there being much difference in the upper and lower price.
SEBI has recently directed that there
should be greater difference in the price bands. But why insist on price band
at all. All successful IPO are always on the upper price bands. Even in
unsuccessful IPOs when price bands were revised lower, the ultimate
subscription was on the upper price band.
4. Please
abolish the Lot size in IPO: With the electronic mode of trading, there is
no concept of lot size as it was under the vintage OUTCRY system. One can easily
sell even 1or13or189 or 1000 shares with equal ease. When there is no lot size
for trading in the market, why have lot size for IPO application? Lot size has
been made only because of price bands and the desire of SEBI to help small
investors. Thus the lower integer number obtained by dividing 15000 by the
price is declared as lot size.
5. Allow
investors to make an informed decision- make future projections compulsory: As a mischief legislation, projections and all
forward looking statements were banned by SEBI.
As a consequence, the investors have to play blind. When we buy even a
bottle of shampoo, we read the promise that it will make our hair soft and
silky etc. but the issuers are able to collect thousands of crores without
making any promise or any obligation on themselves that how they will make
investors’ money grow! Today, investment in IPO is just because of the euphoria
created by the brokers and grey market premium. In our guess not even 10% of
the investors in Zomato would not know that the company is not likely to report
profit in the next couple of years. If projection was made compulsory, such
euphoria could not have been created.
6. Mandate
proper information in the IPO announcements: Please check again any 50/100 announcements
that appear in Newspapers for IPO and see what value an investor derives from
it? These statutory announcements are actually advertisements for merchant
bankers etc. Kindly check percentage of
space dedicated to information that will help an investor make a decision. It
will not be more than 20%.
7. Make
KEY INFORMATION MEMORANDUM mandatory: This should be short and crisp. Some basic
information like area of operation, products, competitors, key customers,
geographies that it caters to, GPM, EPS, PE, Industry PE, a statement from the
management why a person should invest in the company and any other information
thought fit by you.
Our pointwise
suggestions in the desired format is given below. In case you plan to have any
formal meeting and discussion, we shall be happy to participate in the same.
Sr. No. |
Reference
Para of the consultation paper |
Suggestion/
Comments |
Rationale |
1 |
4.1 |
The price
band system should be abolished completely |
As given in
detail above a.
Serves no purpose b.
Makes the process of share application very
complicated c.
Failed to live up to its expectations d.
Does allow calculation of simple ratios like
PE etc. e.
Neither the investors nor the issuers find it
useful but just abide as legal compliance
|
2 |
4.1.1 |
No need for
minimum price band in public issue |
Serves no
purpose |
3 |
4.2 |
Yes. This is
a very good move. NII category may be further divided into two
sub-categories. But we differ
on the Band and allocation i Sub-category
1: 50% of the allocation earmarked for NIIs shall be for application sizes
ranging above INR 15,001 and upto INR 10 lakhs. ii.
Sub-category 2: 50% of the allocation earmarked for NIIs shall be for
applications above INR 10 lakhs. |
This will
enable self funded midsized investors get better allocation. There are
many small investors who do not realise that in a heavily oversubscribed
issue and application of minimum 15000 or upto 2,00,000 will hold the same
chance of allotment under the present system of allocation. We therefore
suggest that a.
small investors / Retail category should have
only one size 15,000 b.
NII Sub-category 1 INR 15,001 and upto INR 10
lakhs c.
NII Sub-category 2 above INR 10 lakhs This suggestion
is mainly from the angle of making the equity culture more popular and
distributing available opportunity for gain to larger number of people rather
than allowing smaller number of people earning large profits. |
4 |
4.3 |
proportionate
allotment in case of NII category should not be discontinued |
SEBI’s one of
the objectives is to grow the capital market. Proportionate allotment will
make many more happy investors. No one will consider himself unlucky, or
manipulation because it is a sheer
mathematical calculation. On the other hand draw of lots will make some very
happy and many very frustrated. A repeat of non- allotment may wean away many
investors from the capital market. |
5 |
4.3.1 |
Yes, NII
category be subdivided into two, with one sub-category exclusively for not so
large NIIs. |
As explained
in para 3 above. |
6 |
4.3.2 |
50% |
As explained
in para 3 above. |
7 |
4.3.3 |
Sub-Category-1
INR 15,001 and upto INR 10 lakhs. Sub-category
2: above INR 10 lakhs. Note- there
must be a cap on the maximum size of one single application. No application
can be for more than the size reserved for that category. |
As explained
in para 3 above. In
sub-category -2 if the maximum size cap is not there, it may lead to some
kind of manipulation. I am remined of the manipulated issued of Bharat Rodd
Networks. The matter was reported to
SEBI my the undersigned but unfortunately no corrective action was taken and
investors lost heavily. The promoter Group SREI, is now under liquidation. |
8 |
4.3.4 |
Allotment
methodology for NII category – should be Proportionate. |
Draw of lots
makes IPO a game of chance, even for larger amount. Moreover it is against
the basic objective of SEBI to grow a healthy capital market. More number of
allottees mean higher participation by
the population. |
SEBI -Please Make your actions truly helpful for investors not only penal to defaulters
TEXT OF LETTER WRITTEN TO SEBI
SMALL INVESTORS’ WELFARE ASSOCIATION
23rd October 2021,
Sub. Make your actions truly helpful
for investors not only penal to defaulters
This is an Extreme SOS situation. The shareholders’ value of
more than 200 Crores will be lost completely. SEBI’s and SC’s 4 orders are
ignored by the defaulters, investors are
bleeding but the mischiefs are enjoying the fruits of their misdeeds.
Very brief case history is- The Dahiya family took over
Hotel Polo Ltd. On 31.03.99 and tried to cheat the investors by giving a wrong
price for such acquisition and brought out an Open offer @ Rs. 8.75 against
their actual acquisition price of Rs.23.75. SEBI ordered them to announce offer
@ 23.75. They filed appeal in SAT 3 times, Punjab & Haryana High Court 2
times, Hon’ble Supreme Court 5 times.
There are many shareholders who have died in last so many
years. One of the largest Public shareholder, a gallantry award winner soldier
is about 75 now waiting for justice for last 20 years. He and Kommalam Sardana
were the first to complain. While Komamalam Sardana died, the soldier is also
counting his last days and has been requesting us to do something to get
justice for the investors.
We request you to please look into the matter urgently and if thought fit take strong action as suggested
by us earlier:
1. Immediately remove the Acquirers and
their nominees from the Board of
directors of the company. As per the Regulation 22 & 23 of SAST 1997, the
Acquirers are not entitled to sit on the Board of the company till such time
they have completed the offer or deposited 100% of the amount in an Escrow
account.
2. For day to day management of the
company, appoint an administrator or a professional on the lines of RP
(Resolution Professional) under the IBC, or allow the minority shareholders to
appoint the Board of directors and a managing committee to manage the hotel.
3. Impound the passports of all the
Acquirers or have “Look-out” notice issued so that they cannot flee the
country.
4.
Expedite prosecution proceedings against Mr. Abhey
Ram Dahiya, Mr. Amardeep Dahiya and Mr. Pankaj Dahiya, for their failure to
comply with SEBI order of June 3, 2019.
5. Speed up the process of recovery of
funds by selling the properties of the Acquirers and deposit the money in
escrow a/c to complete the Offer.
6.
As
provided in SAST 1997 Regulation 44 (a) appoint a merchant banker for selling share of the defaulting acquirer
7.
As
provided in SAST 1997 Regulation 44 (d) Freeze the voting or other rights on these shares.( You have already frozen the
DP account.)
8. Appoint a merchant banker to
complete the process of Open offer, any shortfall ( approx. 10 Crores only) in
the fund may please be temporarily made up from the huge corpus of IPEF and
subsequently recovered from the defaulters.
1. With its share price at around Rs. 93 (market cap Rs. 900 Cr app) on January 22 2019, Prabhat Dairy announced the sale of its dairy business constituting 98% of its revenues, to a French company for Rs. 1700 Cr, almost twice its market capitalization. Share price zoomed 20% till Rs. 110 and collapsed 30% to Rs. 79 - all of this on the same day. Price strangely closed over 15% down on the day of the announcement, perhaps a first. The business was transferred as a slump sale and the sale of a step down subsidiary's shares, for a consideration of Rs. 1700 Cr. Later on, it transpired that the consideration was actually Rs. 1700 Cr + Rs. 180.85 Cr for ‘agreed debt repayments’ (Company’s subsequent letter to SEBI dated March 13 2020) i.e. a total of Rs. 1880.85 Cr. So the first figure to remember in this saga is the sale consideration of the entire business was Rs. 1880.85 Cr (i.e. Rs. 192.56 per Share)
2. The Company promptly issued a
statement on March 25 2019 (one day before the EGM scheduled for approval of
the dairy business sale transaction) that “it is the intention of the Board to
distribute the net proceeds of the transaction to the members of the Company in
due course after meeting tax & indemnity obligations…”. Same day, the Company
issued an update that Escrow account is being set up for the utilization of the
net transaction proceeds and a Board Committee (including three independent
directors) would monitor the use of proceeds for the shareholders. The EGM
approved the transaction even though proxy firms advised voting against it.
Almost 99% of the institutional voters (present & voting) voted against the
resolution but the resolution was still approved by overwhelming majority as
few shareholders actually never cast their votes while the promoters always do.
(The
author has been crying hoarse to SEBI to implement its own Takeover code especially
Regulation 4 of SAST 2011 which mandates an open offer for takeover of control even
without buying shares. Till date, SEBI has never implemented it even though
SEBI finds it so important that it has been carried forward in the new 2011
Takeover code from the earlier 1997 code. )
On
March 27 2019, the Company said “…it is clarified that no part of the proceeds
from the transaction will be deployed towards residual business…”.
It was specifically mentioned at the March 2019 EGM that app. 1000-1200 Crore may be available for distribution to shareholders, this is the second figure to remember. This was after accounting for taxes on the transaction, transaction costs, debt repayments and claw-back provisions as per SPA with the French company. The transaction was accounted for in FY 2018-19 books and assets were classified as "held for sale" and subsequently the sale consideration was duly received.
3. On September 5, 2019, without distributing the net proceeds as per announced intention, the Company stunned the market announcing its delisting proposal.
4. On complaints of impropriety from several shareholders and lack of satisfactory explanations, SEBI on July 17 2020 approved the appointment of Grant Thornton as forensic auditor for FY 18-19 and FY 19-20. The Company and its MD refused to co-operate with the forensic auditor repeatedly and even questioned its independence.
5. On July 31 2020, the Company informed the Stock Exchanges that the net amount available after debt repayment, indemnity provisions under SPA, transaction costs and taxes is Rs. 878.29 Cr. (Company had earlier informed SEBI that Rs. 854 Cr had been transferred to Escrow account set up for distribution to shareholders). This is the third figure to remember, net amount available for distribution Rs. 878 Cr.
6. Vide its interim order on October 20 2020, SEBI said “…the replies given by the Company clearly indicate that the Company has been evasive as regards the details concerning the amounts stated to be lying in the Escrow account for distribution to shareholders…. the Company and its MD have repeatedly failed to co-operate with the forensic auditor….”. It directed the Company to deposit Rs. 1292.46 Cr to an interest bearing Special Escrow account with SEBI and facilitate the forensic audit. The order was appealed by the Company and on November 20, 2020, SAT ruled in favour of the Company saying delisting needs to proceed irrespective of forensic audit. Another SEBI order was given in December 2020, again SAT quashed the revised order and directed the delisting to be approved on March 4 2021 and finally the delisting proceeded at breakneck speed.
7. The delisting was declared successful on March 31 2020 at a declared Exit price of Rs. 101 with Promoters garnering 95.4% (earlier 50.1%) at a cost of Rs. 447.3 Cr. + say another Rs. 45 Cr. to acquire the balance ie Rs. 492 Cr. So the fourth and final figure to remember is that Rs. 492 Cr will be the final bill for Promoters to acquire 100%.
In a nutshell, of the Rs. 1881 Cr. total consideration, only Rs. 492 Cr gets distributed and Promoters acquire 100%. Is this fair? Will the forensics audit ever be completed and will SEBI ask the Company for upward revision of the Exit price?
THE BIGGER QUESTION REMAINS: WHY DOES SEBI NOT AMEND THE REGULATIONS AND MANDATE FULL DISTRIBUTION TO ALL SHAREHOLDERS WHEN THE ENTIRE BUSINESS HAS BEEN SOLD?
HELLO, GOOD MORNING SEBI.
SMALL INVESTORS’ WELFARE ASSOCIATION
The Tata Steel - Bhushan Steel merger EGM today; March 26:
SHAREHOLDERS
SHOULD VOTE AGAINST THE RESOLUTION FOR MERGER
1) THREE YEARS FOR COMPLETION: The likely completion of the merger will
happen in May 2021, literally on the third anniversary of the announcement of
Tata Steel as the victorious bidder in NCLT. Three years ? For a company the
stature of Tata Steel ?
2) THE SHARE SWAP RATIO: Interestingly, BSL performance has zoomed in recent
quarters, what with the wheels of fortune smiling again at the auto industry
(BSL is the country's leader in auto grade steel). Based on the latest
annualised quarterly results, the BSL shares are currently quoting at a PE of
less than 2 times pegged to the share swap ratio (1 share of Tata Steel to be
allotted against 15 shares of BSL), while Tata Steel shares are trading at a PE
close to double digits. So the question shareholders are naturally asking, "is
the share swap ratio fair to BSL shareholders ?"
3) THE RATIO WAS DECIDED THREE YEARS BACK: The author justified the ratio in
his mind thinking that it is unfair to see today’s performance, probably the
valuation was based on 2017-18 financials when BSL was showing losses (has been
under SFIO investigation for some time now) and the Singhals were cooking their
books to stay afloat and solvent and Tata Steel was their white knight in
shining armour. So for academic interest, he decided to dig out the Valuation
report and Fairness opinion of 2018-19 and was in for a shock.
4) THE VALUATION
REPORT: The fairness report simply says that the valuation is fair basis
Valuation report, Scheme documents etc. So it all boils down to the Valuation
report, which describes four methods:
(a) Income Approach: not considered by
Valuer as Tata Steel did not provide its projections
(b) Cost Approach:
not considered as historical coat of assets for a loss making company “has
limited relevance in valuation of a business as a going concern”.
c) Market Price
Method: Average of last six months monthly average prices (VWAP) which
concludes 1:15
(d) Market Price
Method II: Comparable Companies Method where EV/Ebitda of comparable companies
is to be considered. Then strangely, instead of comparing the EV/Ebitda of BSL
with that of other comparable companies, it simply takes Enterprise Value of
BSL, reduces liabilities (including preference shares) etc. and divides by no
of shares to justify result of c above. So much for comparing valuation of
similar companies. How could Tata Steel accept this, float it to the stock
exchanges and file its merger scheme basis such a glaring error ? But we guess,
when your reputation of governance is as strong as Tata Steel, you can get away
with murder.
WHAT DO SMALL
SHAREHOLDERS DO ? We do not question the buyout of BSL by Tata Steel, that is
done and BSL is now 72%+ owned by a WOS of Tata Steel and that is fine.
However, why short-change BSL existing shareholders? Let BSL continue as a
listed entity, its share is worth well over Rs. 100 (December quarter EPS is
Rs. 8.35 i.e. Rs. 33.40 annualised EPS).
The court convened
shareholder meeting is today, March 26 2021 at 3pm and e-balloting has already
started. Majority of the minority has to approve (Tata group cannot vote).
Should shareholders not vote for continuing BSL as an independent step down
listed subsidiary of Tata Steel ? After all, it does not prevent Tata Steel
from leveraging synergies; after all we have so many examples of parent and
subsidiary both being listed (Birla’s, Vedanta..... and even Tata’s
SHAREHOLDERS SHOULD
DEFEAT THE PROPOSAL FOR MERGER TODAY.
Dear Sir,
We thank you issuing the discussion paper on Delisting
Review. We find that some of our suggestions have found their way in the paper
but many others have been ignored. While our suggestions on Indicative Price, Lien
marking, timeline for applying for Stock Exchange approval have been looked
into, other suggestions on discovered price, Counter Offer, Delisting-cum-Open
offer, Early Bird Incentive, Definition of DVR have been ignored. We
have given our comments in the desired format and have reiterated our suggestions at the end of the
letter. Hope you will find merit in our suggestions and they will soon be .
Thanking you.
Yours truly
For SMALL INVESTORS’ WELFARE ASSOCIATION
CA Arun Goenka
1. Public comments are therefore invited on the aforesaid
proposals in the following format:
Name of entity/ person/ intermediary: CA Arun Goenka
Name of organization (if applicable): SMALL
INVESTORS’ WELFARE ASSOCIATION
Regn
No. F-72744 (M)
Contact
details: Address, Mobile No. etc. 703,
Meadows, Sahar Plaza Complex, AndheriKurla Road,J.B. Nagar, Andheri ( E) ,
Mumbai 400 059
Email
: SirenBajao@gmail.com Tel : +91-22-4215 1349 Mobile No. 93230 91348
Sr. No. |
Proposals Page No.
Para No. |
Proposed/ suggested
changes |
Rationale |
1 |
1.4.ii |
The IPA
shall be made by the acquirer / promoter |
The words through
the manager, have been suggested to be deleted. No need to first appoint a Merchant Banker to issue “Initial
Public announcement / IPA”. This can be “Self Declaration” in the prescribed
form. The basic objective that such “price sensitive information, and should be disseminated in
the public domain in a real time manner” is defeated and crucial time is lost
in finding and appointing a Merchant Banker. May be quotations will be
invited and discussion take place with more than one Merchant Banker leading
to the chances of leakage of information. In the case of Takeover the IPA may need a specialist an
expert Merchant Banker since the matter is more complicated and often
involves information required for a third party which may not be easily
available. In the case of delisting the whole information and management is
in the control of the promoter, IPA can be issued immediately. The format of IPA can be made simple and self declaration
type. On the lines
of DPS in the Takeover code, DPS may be issued within 5 days of IPA by a
Merchant Banker. |
2 |
3.4 |
This can be
dropped |
This will
cast an unnecessary obligation on the company. It serves no useful purpose. Delisting
offer should be viewed only as a short-term price advantage opportunity for
investors. If the
company has a bright future, the delisting cannot be in the long-term
interest of the investors. On the other hand, if the company does not have a
bright future ahead, no Promoter shall go for delisting. Save the
Committee of Independent Directors from any kind of false/controversial
recommendation. Let the investors decide for themselves. |
3 |
5.2 |
Promoter(s)
/ Acquirer(s) may be allowed to specify an indicative price which shall not
be less than 25% over the floor
price calculated in terms of Regulation 8 of Takeover Regulations. |
It is meaningless to incorporate “Indicative Price” if it is
going to be the same as floor price. It will be unnecessary repetition and
confusing (Vedanta delisting offer Floor Price 87.25 Indicative price 87.50) There has to
be an objective for giving Indicative Price. It should be made optional
not obligatory. The objective of Indicative Price should be
to encourage the investors to participate in the delisting offer. If an offerer is very keen on the success of
delisting offer, he can indicate that by giving a higher offer price which
should not be less than 25% of the floor price. The text of my original
suggestion to SEBI Chairman sent on 16th September 2020 is reproduced below: 1. INDICATIVE
PRICE Although the term “indicative price”
is nowhere mentioned in the Regulations, but in practice, it is very commonly
used. The use of the term “indicative price” should not be allowed. This is
very misleading, and untrue as well. This is also against the spirit of the
regulation which wants to provide a free and transparent price discovery
mechanism, The “indicative price” unfairly influences the mind of the
investor who cannot now bid freely without being guided by the indicative
price. Indicative price is supposed to indicate the price the
Promoters / acquirers are willing to give, but in reality the final Exit
price is always substantially higher, on an average by 30% to
more than 100%. The use of indicate price should be
permitted only in the situation where the promoters want to encourage public
participation in the offer giving incentive by means of offering
a higher price. In such a situation the “Indicative price” should not be less
than 150% of the “floor price”. In the case of Alfa Laval the indicative
price announced was higher by more than 40%. The Floor Price was Rs.
2,045/-whereas the Indicative Offer Price was Rs. 2,850/- Such indicative
price can be permitted, but not Rs.87.50 announced by the promoters of
Vedanta, since the floor price is almost the same. |
4 |
6.5 |
Promoter(s)
/ acquirer(s) shall open an escrow a/c with in seven working days of the
shareholder’s approval and deposit therein an amount equivalent to 25% of the
total consideration, calculated on the basis of the floor price / |
The change
suggested is to remove the word indicative price and make it obligatory to
deposit only 25% of floor price. This is suggested to encourage the Offerer
to offer liberal indicative price without much obligation and funds
constraint right from the beginning. There is a considerable time gap between the time of opening the Escrow
account and the actual fructification of the delisting offer. This may add a
substantial additional initial financial constraint for the promoter in
declaring a higher Indicative Price, and will discourage him from announcing
higher indicative price. |
5 |
13.6.i |
Prior to
making the |
In line with
our suggestion that IPA can be in the self-declaratory mode, IPA should be
deleted. |
|
13.6.ii |
Due –
diligence shall be performed by peer reviewed practicing Company Secretary or
Chartered Accountant, in place of MB, not relating to MB / Acquirer /
Promoter / their Associates; |
The word Chartered Accountant (CA) has been suggested to be
added in view of the fact that CAs are more suitable for the job because of
the education, training and regular involvement with the financial and
corporate legal affairs of companies |
Apart from the above there are several other suggestions
which were given to SEBI from time to time. These suggestions needs to be
looked into seriously to achieve the stated objective.
Extracts from my email dated 16th September 2020
Further to my earlier letter dated 4th July 2020 given in
the the trail mail, I am eagerly waiting for some amendments and
clarifications on the matter of Delisting as suggested. When
the delisting fails, the investors and promoters alike everyone
loses. SEBI as a regulator has to ensure fair play and higher success ratio of
any such exercise. Keeping this in mind I had given my suggestions and I
am clarifying and adding some small suggestions so that all can be
incorporated in one go.
1.
DISCOVERED
PRICE
The discovered price has not been
defined in the regulations. please define it as a price at which maximum number
of shares have been offered. Not the price at which the threshold of 90% is reached.
2.
COUNTER OFFER
The Counter offer should be allowed
to be given even when shares offered have not reached 90% threshold.
3.
DELISTING-CUM-OPEN OFFER
Promoters may be given
a Delisting-cum-Open offer opportunity. For example in the case of Vedanta,
promoter's holding is 50% they have to acquire minimum 40% from the market,
assuming they fail to get 40% and the offer fails. In such a situation
the promoter may be allowed a-la counter offer style, that he is willing to
accept such % of shares as will not violate the MPS norms. Say in this case 25%
at a price to be announced by him. This will work in favour of all.
4.
EARLY BIRD INCENTIVE
An early bird incentive may be
allowed to be offered for better management of delisting. Rather than
everyone waiting till the last, investors who tender
their shares early may be given incentive, say 0.5% for each day.
Since the offer is to be kept open for 5 days.{Reg.13 (2)}, let it be, for
example 2.5% more to the person tendering on day 1, day2, 2%.......so on .
5.
SUGGESTED CHANGE IN REGULATION 3(1)--
DVR
[Explanation: For the purposes of these regulations, the term “shares”
shall include equity shares having superior voting rights.]
The above explanation seems to be a drafting error and needs to be
changed. Because of the above, delisting of shares with inferior
voting rights are not covered . This seems to be an oversight.
The concept of shares with Differential Voting Rights or (DVRs) was
introduced by way of amendment of Section 86 in the Companies Act 1956 which
came into effect from 13.12.2000. Such voting rights may be superior or
inferior.
In the case of Jagatjit Industries, DVR shares with superior
voting rights were issued. These DVR shares carried no rights to dividend, but
20 votes per share.
In 2008, Tata Motors had issued DVR shares with
inferior voting rights. Tata Motor s DVR shares carried one vote per 10 DVR shares
but a 5 per cent higher dividend. Shares with inferior voting rights have not
been included in the definition of ‘Equity Share’ the implication is that
shares like TATA Motors DVRs cannot be delisted or delisted without following
the delisting regulation